Comments on: ‘Banned Frank’ - A follow up on Anne Frank and the scarf http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/ Anthropology of Muslims in the Netherlands (a modest attempt by martijn) Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:56:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: C L O S E R » Heiligschennis IV - Nekschot http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-82026 C L O S E R » Heiligschennis IV - Nekschot Fri, 16 May 2008 22:39:49 +0000 http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-82026 [...] vooraan bij de commotie over het verbannen van het werk van Sooreh Hera, maar is afwezig bij ‘Banned Frank‘? Nu is de aangifte tegen Nekschot gedaan door Abdul Jabbar van de Ven en verdenkt het OM hem [...] […] vooraan bij de commotie over het verbannen van het werk van Sooreh Hera, maar is afwezig bij ‘Banned Frank‘? Nu is de aangifte tegen Nekschot gedaan door Abdul Jabbar van de Ven en verdenkt het OM hem […]

]]> By: » Creating the moral panic: Join the Caravan of Wilders C L O S E R: Anthropology of Muslims in the Netherlands (a modest attempt by Martijn) http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-81921 » Creating the moral panic: Join the Caravan of Wilders C L O S E R: Anthropology of Muslims in the Netherlands (a modest attempt by Martijn) Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:28:04 +0000 http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-81921 [...] to Muslims. For example a Jewish special interest group advocated (and succeeded) in banning Anne Frank pictures in which she wore a kaffiya. A young man who found an art work containing the Dutch flag [...] […] to Muslims. For example a Jewish special interest group advocated (and succeeded) in banning Anne Frank pictures in which she wore a kaffiya. A young man who found an art work containing the Dutch flag […]

]]> By: » Alles wat verder nog mogelijk zou zijn als eigen categorie - Dutch Bloggies C L O S E R: Anthropology of Muslims in the Netherlands (a modest attempt by Martijn) http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-80979 » Alles wat verder nog mogelijk zou zijn als eigen categorie - Dutch Bloggies C L O S E R: Anthropology of Muslims in the Netherlands (a modest attempt by Martijn) Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:41:51 +0000 http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-80979 [...] bespiegelingen over actuele zaken, soms een toelichting op actuele zaken en zo nu en dan zelfs een scoop. Daarnaast een overzicht natuurlijk van allerlei ‘islam’sites maar ook van weblogs van [...] […] bespiegelingen over actuele zaken, soms een toelichting op actuele zaken en zo nu en dan zelfs een scoop. Daarnaast een overzicht natuurlijk van allerlei ‘islam’sites maar ook van weblogs van […]

]]> By: Gabriele http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-78529 Gabriele Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:12:25 +0000 http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-78529 Dear TigerHawk I found disturbing that today everybody recalls the contacts that some 'Palestinian' leaders had with the Nazi and Fascist authorities, but omits another grim side of the dirty political battle for Jerusalem at that time. Both some Arabs and some Zionist leaders (the so-called Zionist-Revisionists) had contacts with the German Nazi and Italian Fascist regimes in an attempt to achieve the same goal: a nation for their people in the contended Holy Land. I have posted about this topic <a href="http://marranci.wordpress.com/2007/05/15/muslim-anti-semitism/" rel="nofollow">here </a> I have also devoted a chapter to this discussion in my book <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jihad-Beyond-Islam-Gabriele-Marranci/dp/1845201582/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1201536680&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Jihad Beyond Islam </a> Best wishes Gabriele Dear TigerHawk

I found disturbing that today everybody recalls the contacts that some ‘Palestinian’ leaders had with the Nazi and Fascist authorities, but omits another grim side of the dirty political battle for Jerusalem at that time.

Both some Arabs and some Zionist leaders (the so-called Zionist-Revisionists) had contacts with the German Nazi and Italian Fascist regimes in an attempt to achieve the same goal: a nation for their people in the contended Holy Land.

I have posted about this topic here
I have also devoted a chapter to this discussion in my book Jihad Beyond Islam
Best wishes
Gabriele

]]> By: omernos http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-78514 omernos Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:34:34 +0000 http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-78514 Tigerhawk, I think what's most interesting about this stencil is how differently people perceive it. As T-Stenciles themselves (original creators) refused to accompany it with any descriptions and left it for the viewers to decide on what's the message conveyed. I personally see a lot in common between Anne Frank (as a victim of Nazis) and Palestinians (victims of Israelis) - they both been through hell, yet Palestinians are still going through it everyday and there aren't any diaries by a Palestinian girl that been published widely around the globe regarding their experience and struggle with Israelis. Therefore I see it as a symbol to show similarities in both cases as well to send a subliminal message on how Israelis and the whole world condemn the holocaust yet they are not paying attention to the Massacres going on in Palestine - on yearly basis and they all overcome and get over it... Please understand that's my <i>own</i> opinion so you're completely entitled to disagree with me on so many levels :) Tigerhawk, I think what’s most interesting about this stencil is how differently people perceive it. As T-Stenciles themselves (original creators) refused to accompany it with any descriptions and left it for the viewers to decide on what’s the message conveyed.

I personally see a lot in common between Anne Frank (as a victim of Nazis) and Palestinians (victims of Israelis) - they both been through hell, yet Palestinians are still going through it everyday and there aren’t any diaries by a Palestinian girl that been published widely around the globe regarding their experience and struggle with Israelis.

Therefore I see it as a symbol to show similarities in both cases as well to send a subliminal message on how Israelis and the whole world condemn the holocaust yet they are not paying attention to the Massacres going on in Palestine - on yearly basis and they all overcome and get over it…

Please understand that’s my own opinion so you’re completely entitled to disagree with me on so many levels :)

]]> By: Amy Proctor http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-78483 Amy Proctor Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:51:44 +0000 http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-78483 I agree with TigerHawk even though I'm Catholic and a BIG Jesus fan. I agree with TigerHawk even though I’m Catholic and a BIG Jesus fan.

]]> By: TigerHawk http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-78477 TigerHawk Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:48:21 +0000 http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2008/01/26/banned-frank-a-follow-up-on-anne-frank-and-the-scarf/#comment-78477 Curiously, I am more troubled by the Anne Frank image than the Christ image. After all, there are many Christian Palestinian Arabs, and they do make a good point -- Nazareth is in modern Palestine. The imagery is a useful reminder of that. But the Anne Frank image, in light of the collaboration of the Palestinian Arabs with the Nazis, is deeply offensive. Curiously, I am more troubled by the Anne Frank image than the Christ image. After all, there are many Christian Palestinian Arabs, and they do make a good point — Nazareth is in modern Palestine. The imagery is a useful reminder of that.

But the Anne Frank image, in light of the collaboration of the Palestinian Arabs with the Nazis, is deeply offensive.

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