Comment on January 4th, 2007.
Thanks for your summary of the Nichane controversy, and especially for providing a link to the Dar al-Hayat editorial. One thing I wonder, in response to its author — doesn’t censorship in the name of Islam “demean Islam” even more than a few jokes? In other words, if a religion is so sensitive or weak that its image is shaken by a few jokes, what does that say? Personally, I don’t believe that Islam needs the protection of state censorship, and I would like to see more Islamist politicians saying so.
Another question to ask is whether it was *really* the religious jokes that caused the State’s reaction, or whether perhaps 1) the State was also sensitive to jokes about the former king and 2) the State wanted to protect itself from the possibility of attack from the right, by being “more Islamist than the Taliban” in this case.
Comment on January 5th, 2007.
Thanks. These are interesting questions and probably question no.1 should be, why the controversy now since most of the jokes (at least as I understand) were well known and often made? About the role and the ‘islamists’ you might also want to consider a report of Reporters without Frontiers about the Moroccan case of Hebdomadaire during the cartoon controversy. See here:
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=16461
Comment on January 6th, 2007.
I was in Morocco at the time of the incident you refer to (Le Journal supposedly publishing the Danish cartoons), and as I understand it, this was a totally fabricated scandal. But fabricated by whom? Apparently some “Islamist” militants work hand in hand with the state security apparatus. This has been alleged in the Nichane case, too. In both cases, the magazines in question are trouble for the state because they criticize abuses of power, and go right up to the red lines of freedom of expression in Morocco. The situation is volatile as elections are coming up this year. For the first time, the Islamist PJD looks set to win, despite the usual vote-rigging the state does to keep any single group from getting a majority. Everything about this scandal has to be read in that context. The Palace is nervous. So while many Moroccans were sincerely offended (not everyone tells these jokes!) I think the real story here is about the state taking an opportunity to get back at its enemies.
Comment on January 6th, 2007.
Of course, the jokes themselves are a fascinating subject for you! They are an art form, a repository of culture and all the rest. It is a ritual to sit with friends and trade jokes. If you don’t bring at least one or two to the table, you are something of a non-person. The jokes Nichane published are representative, but there are hundreds more like them and Nichane didn’t necessarily get the best ones! 😉
Comment on January 8th, 2007.
Martijn,
Would you like to talk about the situation in Morocco tonight, 8th Jan, on the BBC World Service?
Give us a ring on 442075570635 if you are interested.
We go on air at 6pm for one hour.
Paul
Comment on January 8th, 2007.
I visit morocco about three time a year,and on every occasion I hear new jokes about religion,sex and politics this is not a new thing ,i heard jokes about the same since my childhood 50 years ago.Moroccans humour is one of the best in the world. The Nichane controversy will not only affect Morocco’s standing before the civilised world but will also reinforce the hipocricy of everyone involve because all of these people (religious ,the judiciary and the judge)have had a good laught before ,and still hear many similar jokes.And according to our religion God had condemed hipocrits to hell, and I do not thing that God will bother with good and humourous jokes teller who makes poeple laught.As you know the best jokes are about sex,politics,religions and misfortunes.And I suspect the magazine did not go far enought in publishing the best jokes which will reflect what the majority of Moroccan if not the entire population share every day to keep them sane.
Comment on January 9th, 2007.
I have been searching for those jokes in internet for hours and
have found nothing!!!
Can you send me some just to have an idea of it?
lmascherella@yahoo.it
thanks
Comment on January 9th, 2007.
Sorry I don’t have them either anymore. I suggest you have a look at one of the moroccan blogs mentioned in the article here; there should be some copy it.
Comment on February 16th, 2007.
some of jokes in english are still on eatbees…
Last time I looked, humour not haraam…being offensive is subjective…
Comment on September 20th, 2008.
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Comment on April 3rd, 2009.
Just FYI, I linked to your article from Why I make fun of Islam; you will find my Muslim jokes are much ore offensive than those of Nichane magazine.
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