C L O S E R The 'Hofstad-group' Trial: The Mohammed-one-man-show

Posted on February 2nd, 2006 by martijn.
Categories: Murder on theo Van Gogh and related issues.

In the trial against the so called Hofstadgroup today Mohammed B. held his three hour defense. Well defense…It looked more like an expose about violence, violent jihad and Islam (I am told by others; I wasn’t there).

Expatica’s Dutch news in English: ‘I’m no Bin Laden,’ Van Gogh killer says in court speech

The man jailed for life for the murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh in 2004 insisted in court on Thursday the Prophet Mohammed sanctioned the use of violence.

Dutch-Moroccan Mohammed Bouyeri, 27, spoke for almost two hours and thirty minutes in the high security Amsterdam-Osdorp courthouse. It was the closing stages of the trial of 14 Muslim men accused of membership of a terrorist organisation.

Investigators monitoring the men prior to their arrests dubbed them the Hofstad group or network. The accused men claim they met together only to discuss Islam.

Layers for other defendants have already made closing addresses to the three-judge panel.

Bouyeri, who cannot receive another sentence under Dutch law, opted to make a personal speech. It was expected it would contain some fireworks.

But observers afterwards agreed it was too long and confusing. Bouyeri did not address the prosecution’s contention about the existence of a terrorist organisation, or the central role he allegedly played in it.

Journalists in court estimated 70 percent of his speech consisted of citations taken from a range of writers, including Michael Ignatieff and Jessica Stern. Bouyeri gathered the material from the prison library.

Dressed in a traditional Arabic garment with a red and white scarf on his head, Bouyeri began his address with a Muslim confession of his faith in Arabic. A translator interpreted his words for the court.

“Comparing me to Osama bin Laden does the man a great wrong and extends me too much honour I don’t deserve,” Bouyeri said.

“But it fills me with me with honour, pride and joy that you see me as the standard-bearer of Islam in Europe,” he told the prosecution.

I will listen to the audio-tape of part of his exposé and get back to you about that.

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C L O S E R The ‘Hofstad-group’ Trial: The Mohammed-one-man-show

Posted on February 2nd, 2006 by .
Categories: Murder on theo Van Gogh and related issues.

In the trial against the so called Hofstadgroup today Mohammed B. held his three hour defense. Well defense…It looked more like an expose about violence, violent jihad and Islam (I am told by others; I wasn’t there).

Expatica’s Dutch news in English: ‘I’m no Bin Laden,’ Van Gogh killer says in court speech

The man jailed for life for the murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh in 2004 insisted in court on Thursday the Prophet Mohammed sanctioned the use of violence.

Dutch-Moroccan Mohammed Bouyeri, 27, spoke for almost two hours and thirty minutes in the high security Amsterdam-Osdorp courthouse. It was the closing stages of the trial of 14 Muslim men accused of membership of a terrorist organisation.

Investigators monitoring the men prior to their arrests dubbed them the Hofstad group or network. The accused men claim they met together only to discuss Islam.

Layers for other defendants have already made closing addresses to the three-judge panel.

Bouyeri, who cannot receive another sentence under Dutch law, opted to make a personal speech. It was expected it would contain some fireworks.

But observers afterwards agreed it was too long and confusing. Bouyeri did not address the prosecution’s contention about the existence of a terrorist organisation, or the central role he allegedly played in it.

Journalists in court estimated 70 percent of his speech consisted of citations taken from a range of writers, including Michael Ignatieff and Jessica Stern. Bouyeri gathered the material from the prison library.

Dressed in a traditional Arabic garment with a red and white scarf on his head, Bouyeri began his address with a Muslim confession of his faith in Arabic. A translator interpreted his words for the court.

“Comparing me to Osama bin Laden does the man a great wrong and extends me too much honour I don’t deserve,” Bouyeri said.

“But it fills me with me with honour, pride and joy that you see me as the standard-bearer of Islam in Europe,” he told the prosecution.

I will listen to the audio-tape of part of his exposé and get back to you about that.

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C L O S E R – Cartoonesque Part 1001

Posted on February 2nd, 2006 by martijn.
Categories: Misc. News, Public Islam.

Muhammad and Abu Bakr visit poor Bedouins who have no sustenance to share until the Prophet makes their ewe give milk

The row is spreading. On the one hand European media is more and more inclined to show the Danish cartoons. Such as the French newspaper France le Soir.
BBC NEWS | World | Europe | France enters Muslim cartoon row

France Soir said it had published the cartoons to show that “religious dogma” had no place in a secular society.

Their publication in Denmark has led to protests in several Arab nations.

And also the BBC wants to broadcast the cartoons, following other media: Cartoon Controversy: Bomb Shaped Turban Upsets Muslims

The role of the media here, gets more interesting by the day. See for example also the website of Almedina.com where you can send a protestemail:

Dear Minster of Cultural affairs (Norway) Dear Minster of Cultural affairs (Denmark) (Norway) and Magazinet newspaper (Denmark) in Jyllands Posten newspaper (PBUH) The Muslim world has been following with anger and sorrow the humiliating cartoons. That were published for the Nobel Prophet Muhammad harassment!thin a negative attitude and picturing him as a person representing evil force does firmly form a sever compound and complicated act of aggression conducted against our believes, hearts, minds and souls.

Muslims can hardly think of any worse cultural In Islam, embodying Prophet Mohammad PBUH in a picture, drawing or a statue is completely prohibited; even within a context of showing respect, admiration or recognition. As a result, and as you may have found out already, drawing Prophet Mohammed wi slims who consider Prophet Muhammad as the messenger of mercy. We strongly believe in freedom of expression and freedom of press. However, what was published in those two newspapers is inappropriate and goes beyond freedom of expression. It humiliates, without any reason or purpose, approximately one billion Muslims in because publishing them again will cause more tensions between nations, will harm Muslims’ feelings and their beliefs.We forward you this letter to express our strong condemnation for what was published and we hope your respect to others’ beliefs and religious symbols will motivate you to condemn these drawings and make sure that they will not be published once again.

www.almadinapress.com
reporters@al-madina.com

At the same pace the outrage among Muslims seems to spread: Cartoon Controversy: Bomb Shaped Turban Upsets Muslims

And at the same pace call for solidarity with the Danes among non-Muslims spread (France Soir is an example already mentioned) on e.g. Brusselsjournal.com (We are all Danes now!) and Dutch newspapers such as Trouw by Ephimenco It looks like one monolithic bloc against the other. No wonder Ephimenco concludes this time that the Islam does exist: this row is the ultimate proof. Sadly he is wrong and he is wrong because he neglects the voices among Muslims who condemn the actions of for example Saudi Arabia. Among them Radikale Venstre member Naser Khader who wrote an open letter in which he states that it is Saudi Arabia who should apologize for their open contempt for human rights. Also the one of the islamic organizations seems to be out for peace and quiet now.

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BBC NEWS | Magazine | Travels with my beard

Posted on February 2nd, 2006 by martijn.
Categories: Misc. News.

BBC NEWS | Magazine | Travels with my beard

Interesting story by Rajesh Thind

After the 7 July London bombings could growing a beard completely change the way people treated a British Asian? There was only one way to find out.

It’s interesting to see how stereotypes work: among the ‘victims’ of stereotypes and among the people who act because of these stereotypes (who doesn’t?). See als the reactions on this article.
(more…)

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BBC NEWS | Magazine | Travels with my beard

Posted on February 2nd, 2006 by .
Categories: Misc. News.

BBC NEWS | Magazine | Travels with my beard

Interesting story by Rajesh Thind

After the 7 July London bombings could growing a beard completely change the way people treated a British Asian? There was only one way to find out.

It’s interesting to see how stereotypes work: among the ‘victims’ of stereotypes and among the people who act because of these stereotypes (who doesn’t?). See als the reactions on this article.
(more…)

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ABC News: Documents Show Army Seized Wives As Tactic

Posted on February 2nd, 2006 by .
Categories: Misc. News.

ABC News: Documents Show Army Seized Wives As Tactic

Documents Show Army Seized Wives of Suspected Insurgents in Hopes of ‘Leveraging’ Surrenders

By CHARLES J. HANLEY AP Special Correspondent
The Associated Press

– The U.S. Army in Iraq has at least twice seized and jailed the wives of suspected insurgents in hopes of “leveraging” their husbands into surrender, U.S. military documents show.

In one case, a secretive task force locked up the young mother of a nursing baby, a U.S. intelligence officer reported. In the case of a second detainee, one American colonel suggested to another that they catch her husband by tacking a note to the family’s door telling him “to come get his wife.”

The issue of female detentions in Iraq has taken on a higher profile since kidnappers seized American journalist Jill Carroll on Jan. 7 and threatened to kill her unless all Iraqi women detainees are freed.

The U.S. military on Thursday freed five of what it said were 11 women among the 14,000 detainees currently held in the 2 1/2-year-old insurgency. All were accused of “aiding terrorists or planting explosives,” but an Iraqi government commission found that evidence was lacking.

Iraqi human rights activist Hind al-Salehi contends that U.S. anti-insurgent units, coming up empty-handed in raids on suspects’ houses, have at times detained wives to pressure men into turning themselves in.

Iraq’s deputy justice minister, Busho Ibrahim Ali, dismissed such claims, saying hostage-holding was a tactic used under the ousted Saddam Hussein dictatorship, and “we are not Saddam.” A U.S. command spokesman in Baghdad, Lt. Col. Barry Johnson, said only Iraqis who pose an “imperative threat” are held in long-term U.S.-run detention facilities.

But documents describing two 2004 episodes tell a different story as far as short-term detentions by local U.S. units. The documents are among hundreds the Pentagon has released periodically under U.S. court order to meet an American Civil Liberties Union request for information on detention practices.

In one memo, a civilian Pentagon intelligence officer described what happened when he took part in a raid on an Iraqi suspect’s house in Tarmiya, northwest of Baghdad, on May 9, 2004. The raid involved Task Force (TF) 6-26, a secretive military unit formed to handle high-profile targets.

“During the pre-operation brief it was recommended by TF personnel that if the wife were present, she be detained and held in order to leverage the primary target’s surrender,” wrote the 14-year veteran officer.

He said he objected, but when they raided the house the team leader, a senior sergeant, seized her anyway.

“The 28-year-old woman had three young children at the house, one being as young as six months and still nursing,” the intelligence officer wrote. She was held for two days and was released after he complained, he said.

Like most names in the released documents, the officer’s signature is blacked out on this for-the-record memorandum about his complaint.

Of this case, command spokesman Johnson said he could not judge, months later, the factors that led to the woman’s detention.

The second episode, in June 2004, is found in sketchy detail in e-mail exchanges among six U.S. Army colonels, discussing an undisclosed number of female detainees held in northern Iraq by the Stryker Brigade of the 2nd Infantry Division.

The first message, from a military police colonel, advised staff officers of the U.S. northern command that the Iraqi police would not take control of the jailed women without charges being brought against them.

In a second e-mail, a command staff officer asked an officer of the unit holding the women, “What are you guys doing to try to get the husband have you tacked a note on the door and challenged him to come get his wife?”

Two days later, the brigade’s deputy commander advised the higher command, “As each day goes by, I get more input that these gals have some info and/or will result in getting the husband.”

He went on, “These ladies fought back extremely hard during the original detention. They have shown indications of deceit and misinformation.”

The command staff colonel wrote in reply, referring to a commanding general, “CG wants the husband.”

The released e-mails stop there, and the women’s eventual status could not be immediately determined.

Of this episode, Johnson said, “It is clear the unit believed the females detained had substantial knowledge of insurgent activity and warranted being held.”

On the Net:

First document: http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/t2614 2616.pdf

E-mail exchange: http://www.aclu.org/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DOD044843.pdf

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