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Posted on February 13th, 2005 by martijn.
Categories: Internal Debates, Public Islam.
Qantara.de – Mohammad Shabestari – Faith, Freedom, and Reason
Can there be such a thing as Islamic human rights? Do the commandments set forth in the Koran have eternal validity, or can they be modified according to the demands of reason? Iranian clergyman Mohammad Shabestari has devoted his life to exploring these issues in modern religious and political Islamic thinking. By Roman Seidel
Posted on February 10th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Islam in the Netherlands, Religious and Political Radicalization, Some personal considerations, Young Muslims.
C L O S E R
De lokroep van terreur: Zembla over radicale moslimjongeren
Zo dat was dan de uitzending van Zembla, waarover al eerder wat gemeld. Over het geheel een aardige uitzending; er zat niet zo’n duidelijke lijn in vond ik zelf, maar de individuele bijdragen waren wel erg goed zeker van Chahid el Hadouti, jongerenwerker in Gouda en Abdullah Haselhoef.
Er waren ook fragmenten van Marokko.nl te zien en ook de moderators waren in beeld. Ook hun bijdrage was de moeite waard. Op Marokko.nl was het al eerder aangekondigd en er wordt nu volop op gereageerd
De bijdragen bij elkaar maakten het tot, ondanks het ontbreken van een duidelijke lijn, een genuanceerd en ik denk voor de leken onder ons, redelijk verhelderend verhaal.
Over mijn bijdrage in het stuk ben ik wat minder tevreden. En wel om twee redenen. Mijn bijdrage begon met een verhaal over een groep die een keer moskee Nour in Gouda bezocht. De suggestie zou gewekt kunnen worden (ik kan me niet meer de precieze tekst van de commentator herinneren) dat dat een zogenaamde takfir groep was. Dat was het niet bij mijn weten. Het waren wel een soort rondtrekkende predikers. Jongeren in de moskee vonden het inderdaad spannend maar waren ook wel geintimideerd (hoewel dat volgens mij zeker niet de bedoeling van dat groepje was). Vervolgens vroeg de verslaggever (die ik overigens erg goed vond) hoeveel jongeren dit spannend vinden. Tot mijn eigen schrik zei ik op televisie dat dit 50% of zelfs meer was. Dat had niet gemoeten en is mijn eigen schuld. Ik weet namelijk helemaal niet of dat 50% was. Ik weet wel dat er jongeren zijn die het spannend vinden zulke groepjes, maar dat wil zeker niet zeggen dat ze zich er ook toe aangetrokken voelen. Dat zei ik ook wel min of meer, maar dat had duidelijker gemoeten.
Dus mijn bijdrage was wat minder; denk niet dat ik daarvoor Zembla de schuld geef. Ik had zelf maar wat beter op moeten letten en me niet laten verleiden tot dat domme getal van 50%. Ik ben daar altijd huiverig voor omdat dat soort cijfers een eigen leven gaan leden ook al zijn ze nergens op gebaseerd. Dus mensen ga niet met dat cijfer aan de haal want je maakt je belachelijk.
Wat van belang is verder, en dat kwam er ook wel uit denk ik in het programma, is dat we de voedingsbodem moeten aanpakken. Radicaliserende jongeren zijn nog geen terroristische jongeren en er is ook geen sprake van een doortimmerde ideologie maar eerder van wat knip en plak werk. De voedingsbodem zit hem volgens mij onder andere in drie dingen:
1) Jongeren zijn op zoek naar een vorm van zuivere islam zonder de culturele invloeden van hun ouders (wat nog niet betekent dat ze breken met hun ouders)
2) Met hun vragen, wensen en behoeften kunnen ze daarvoor nauwelijks terecht bij de traditionele moslimorganisaties en imams.
3) Die vragen en behoeften zijn grotendeels geent op hun leven hier en bevatten vaak ook een vergelijking met autochtone niet-moslim jongeren. In die zin is hun moslimidentiteit ook een brug naar de Nederlandse samenleving. Ze hebben, op z’n zachtst gezegd, daar weinig positieve respons op.
Resulteert die zoektocht in een zuivere islam in een ontworteling (bij 2) en een vervreemding zelfs gevoel van vernedering (bij 3) dan ligt nog de weg niet open naar radicalisering. Probleem is echter dat jongeren, natuurlijk niet voor ��n gat te vangen, op zoek gaan naar alternatieven. En dan is er niet zoveel keus. Gelukkig zijn er sites als Marokko.nl, Maroc.nl, Maghrebonline enz. waar allerlei meningen en belevingen aan bod kunnen komen, maar de meeste islamitische sites zijn van de selefie-soort. Ook nog geen ramp, maar er zijn er ook bij (vooral bij MSN-groepen) die hun selefie opvattingen combineren met een (politieke) takfir ideologie. En dat is wel zorgelijk.
Nou tot zover even. Voel je vrij om hier of per mail vragen te stellen of te reageren.
PS
De herhaling van Zembla is zaterdag zaterdag 15 januari om 12.10 uur bij de VARA/NPS op Nederland 3 (kijk voor de zekerheid even bij zembla zelf op de site http://www.omroep.nl/vara/zembla
Posted on February 10th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, International Terrorism, Religious and Political Radicalization, Young Muslims.
VARA/NPS: Zembla zendt vanavond een documentaire uit over radicale moslimjongeren: De lokroep van de terreur.
Jonge moslims gaan op zoek naar een islam die hun frustraties en woede weerspiegelt. Dat maakt hen tot een gemakkelijke prooi voor rondreizende leermeesters van de Takfir wal Hijra, een stroming binnen de islam die geweld predikt tegen iedereen die anders denkt dan zijzelf.
Of het nou helemaal over die organisatie gaat of ook over de ideologie dat weet ikniet (denk het wel). Imam Fawaz (den haag) en imam Salam (tilburg) komen aan bod evenals Sybrand Niessen van de AIVD en prof. Rik Coolsaet.
De rol van internet zal ook besproken met onder andere Albert Benschop.
Verder verwacht ik (gezien de hoeveelheid opnamen) dat enkele jongeren uit Gouda en ondergetekende ook nog wel voorbij zullen flitsen.
Posted on February 8th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates.
One of the main characteristics of young Muslims is that they want clear cut answers to all kinds of questions. This is not typical for young Muslims here however. We can see this everywhere and it is probably also not typical for Muslims only. Arabnews has some examples: Controversial Issues: Music, Prophet’s Birthday, etc.
Controversial Issues: Music, Prophet’s Birthday, etc
Posted on February 8th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, International Terrorism, Religious and Political Radicalization.
The Saudis are using a combination of traditional Muslim processes and modern technology to combat Islamist terrorism. One of the strategies the spread of reformed Islamist militant sympathisers through the internet. Read: Saudis ‘reform militants’ on web. This strategie is combined with ‘re-opening the gates of Ijtihad’ more traditional Islamic processes of hermeneutics, to help moderate Muslims combat terrorism. ‘Ijtihad’ allows for expanded dialogue and changes within Islam. The use of ‘ijtihad’ was stopped in Sunni Islam centuries ago. However, there is a growing movement among academics to revive ‘ijtihad’ or, “re-open its gates.” Read:
Analysis: Islamic tradition and the Web – (United Press International)
Posted on February 4th, 2005 by martijn.
Categories: Internal Debates, Misc. News, Uncategorized.
In several places you can find the story of Hind (no not the Moroccan-Dutch singer). Mahmood’s Den, Virtually Islamic and MuslimWakeUp! are my sources.
No the story of Hind is this one:
Hind el-Hinnawy, a 27 year-old Egyptian costume designer who with one bold gesture scandalized a religiously conservative society wallowing in its own schizoid hypocrisy and had her baby in that ambivalent zone of civil (urfi) marriage, going on to file a paternity suit against the famous, or by now infamous, actor, Ahmed Al-Fishawy.
Mahmood’s Den has the shortest and best summary:
And she’s not dead? Her brother, father, uncle, boy next door didn’t kill her to “purify” her family’s name?
I can’t believe it.. what’s the (Arab) world coming to, when a woman has sex out of wedlock, has an [il]legitimate child and then sues the father for paternity and lives to not only tell the tale but challenges the age-old “honour killing” thing?
Have your own say. Mine is: good on you Hind.
Muslim Wake Up has covered the story very thorough.
Posted on February 4th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Misc. News, Uncategorized.
In several places you can find the story of Hind (no not the Moroccan-Dutch singer). Mahmood’s Den, Virtually Islamic and MuslimWakeUp! are my sources.
No the story of Hind is this one:
Hind el-Hinnawy, a 27 year-old Egyptian costume designer who with one bold gesture scandalized a religiously conservative society wallowing in its own schizoid hypocrisy and had her baby in that ambivalent zone of civil (urfi) marriage, going on to file a paternity suit against the famous, or by now infamous, actor, Ahmed Al-Fishawy.
Mahmood’s Den has the shortest and best summary:
And she’s not dead? Her brother, father, uncle, boy next door didn’t kill her to “purify” her family’s name?
I can’t believe it.. what’s the (Arab) world coming to, when a woman has sex out of wedlock, has an [il]legitimate child and then sues the father for paternity and lives to not only tell the tale but challenges the age-old “honour killing” thing?
Have your own say. Mine is: good on you Hind.
Muslim Wake Up has covered the story very thorough.
Posted on February 2nd, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates.
FrontPage magazine.com :: A Muslim Scholar Takes on CAIR by Jamie Glazov
A Muslim Scholar Takes on CAIR
By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 2, 2005
Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Prof. Khaleel Mohammed, Assistant Professor at the Department of Religious Studies at San Diego State University. He has sparked controversy within the Islamic community by arguing, as a Muslim himself, that the Koran says Israel belongs to the Jews.
Posted on January 26th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Islam in the Netherlands, Misc. News.
In this article in Dutch by the daily Trouw, Kustaw Bessems reports how the French embassy pressured people like Paul Scheffer, Olivier Roy and Micha�l Zeeman not to talk to Tariq Ramadan.
All these people were scheduled to appear at the literature festival Winternachten in a debate the situation of mutual distrust in the east en the west.
According to the French embassy Ramadan is a dangerous person; a wolf in sheeps clothes. On Dhimmiwatch and Campuswatch and on Frontpage Magazine there are several articles with the same allegations most of them linked to problems he had getting into (or not into) the US.
On Oumma.com you can the reaction of Ramadan to these events (in French). Both articles, are placed below as well.
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Posted on January 23rd, 2005 by martijn.
Categories: Internal Debates, Some personal considerations.
Double standards, something which we often attribute to Muslims is of course nothing new for non-Muslims as well. Several issues on double standards such as: America: Land of the Free? Not if You’re a Muslim, by Mary Shaw – Democratic Underground. In this article she shows how Muslims in the US are treated as second rate citizens, and considered to be a threat to national security. A reference to the Jim Crow law’s is made:
Curt Goering, Senior Deputy Executive Director of Amnesty International USA, summed it up well: “Racial profiling is to the 21st century what Jim Crow laws were to the last, turning entire groups of people into second-class citizens and denying them the rights to which we all are due.”
The reason for this article is probably the survey at Cornell University:
A recent Cornell University survey found that almost half of all Americans believe that the U.S. government should restrict the civil liberties of Muslim Americans. This bigoted, racist attitude is quite simply appalling. It essentially favors racial profiling; yet a recent report by Amnesty International presents strong evidence indicating that racial profiling does not work.
This is a survey used by Daniel Pipes one of the major anti-islam/anti radical islam prophets. According to Habib Sidiqui Pipes supports the concept of rounding up millions of Muslim Americans and interning them in concentration camps just as was done with the Japanese during WWII and he defends racial profiling.
To support his sinister proposal on internment of Muslims, Daniel cites a poll, conducted by sophomore students in the Department of Communication at Cornell University.[7] The report was released on Dec. 17, 2004. He writes, �For years, it has been my position that the threat of radical Islam implies an imperative to focus security measures on Muslims. � And so, I was encouraged by a just-released Cornell University opinion survey that finds nearly half the U.S. population agreeing with this proposition. Specifically, 44 percent of Americans believe that government authorities should direct special attention towards Muslims living in the United States, either by registering their whereabouts, profiling them, monitoring them, monitoring their mosques or infiltrating their organizations.�
Although Sidiqui has a nice analysis he falls into the same trap as a lot of people do with the following statement:
So, rather than shedding crocodile tears for Muslim Americans� image, Daniel and his ilk should examine at their own culpability and work towards improving the image of Bush and America around the world. That would be more productive and commendable. Otherwise, it won�t be too long that their honeymoon with Bush would be over. And who knows they might find themselves in the same spots visited by others like Julius Streicher, Hans Frank, Adolf Eichman, Rudolf Hess and Hermann Goering for crimes against humanity!
Now he is attacking the person and as so often not the person’s statement. Does this mean he agrees? His only proposal is that people should know more about Islam; a little bit naieve I think. This is the old contacthypothesis: if you have contact with people of other groups you are probably to like them more than if you don’t have contact. Ah, if things were just that simple…
For a more thorough discussion on these matters go the Asia Times Online Community, or stay here 😉
Posted on January 23rd, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Some personal considerations.
Double standards, something which we often attribute to Muslims is of course nothing new for non-Muslims as well. Several issues on double standards such as: America: Land of the Free? Not if You’re a Muslim, by Mary Shaw – Democratic Underground. In this article she shows how Muslims in the US are treated as second rate citizens, and considered to be a threat to national security. A reference to the Jim Crow law’s is made:
Curt Goering, Senior Deputy Executive Director of Amnesty International USA, summed it up well: “Racial profiling is to the 21st century what Jim Crow laws were to the last, turning entire groups of people into second-class citizens and denying them the rights to which we all are due.”
The reason for this article is probably the survey at Cornell University:
A recent Cornell University survey found that almost half of all Americans believe that the U.S. government should restrict the civil liberties of Muslim Americans. This bigoted, racist attitude is quite simply appalling. It essentially favors racial profiling; yet a recent report by Amnesty International presents strong evidence indicating that racial profiling does not work.
This is a survey used by Daniel Pipes one of the major anti-islam/anti radical islam prophets. According to Habib Sidiqui Pipes supports the concept of rounding up millions of Muslim Americans and interning them in concentration camps just as was done with the Japanese during WWII and he defends racial profiling.
To support his sinister proposal on internment of Muslims, Daniel cites a poll, conducted by sophomore students in the Department of Communication at Cornell University.[7] The report was released on Dec. 17, 2004. He writes, �For years, it has been my position that the threat of radical Islam implies an imperative to focus security measures on Muslims. � And so, I was encouraged by a just-released Cornell University opinion survey that finds nearly half the U.S. population agreeing with this proposition. Specifically, 44 percent of Americans believe that government authorities should direct special attention towards Muslims living in the United States, either by registering their whereabouts, profiling them, monitoring them, monitoring their mosques or infiltrating their organizations.�
Although Sidiqui has a nice analysis he falls into the same trap as a lot of people do with the following statement:
So, rather than shedding crocodile tears for Muslim Americans� image, Daniel and his ilk should examine at their own culpability and work towards improving the image of Bush and America around the world. That would be more productive and commendable. Otherwise, it won�t be too long that their honeymoon with Bush would be over. And who knows they might find themselves in the same spots visited by others like Julius Streicher, Hans Frank, Adolf Eichman, Rudolf Hess and Hermann Goering for crimes against humanity!
Now he is attacking the person and as so often not the person’s statement. Does this mean he agrees? His only proposal is that people should know more about Islam; a little bit naieve I think. This is the old contacthypothesis: if you have contact with people of other groups you are probably to like them more than if you don’t have contact. Ah, if things were just that simple…
For a more thorough discussion on these matters go the Asia Times Online Community, or stay here 😉
Posted on January 19th, 2005 by .
Categories: Important Publications, Internal Debates, Some personal considerations.
Daily Times – Site Edition
INSIGHT: Deconstruction � Derrida�s lasting legacy �Suroosh Irfani
With thanks to I d e a n t: Derrida and God.
Suroosh Irani’s very interesting article Deconstruction – Derrida’s lasting legacy. As Ideant correctly states:
The article succinctly summarizes the uses and abuses of deconstruction, but more importantly, gives us a glimpse into a man’s quest for understanding the Divine in his own terms, free from the indoctrination of religious as well as secular fanaticism and formulas.
More people should do that…
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Posted on January 19th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, International Terrorism, Religious and Political Radicalization, Young Muslims.
Times Online – Britain
Britain’s online imam declares war as he calls young to jihad
Large article in Times on Omar Bakri Mohammed who is issuing a call to arms..
Posted on January 19th, 2005 by martijn.
Categories: Internal Debates, International Terrorism, Religious and Political Radicalization, Young Muslims.
Times Online – Britain
Britain’s online imam declares war as he calls young to jihad
Large article in Times on Omar Bakri Mohammed who is issuing a call to arms..
Posted on January 19th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Islamnews.
Ross Mayfield’s Weblog: The Network’s Interpretation of Islam
The Network’s Interpretation of Islam
On Ross Mayfield’s Weblog an abstract of a discussion about the consequences for islam in the web-era.
The original discussion is here: OPEN AFFORDANCES: a multi-disciplinary panel on the possibilities and impossibilities of the internet
Posted on January 19th, 2005 by martijn.
Categories: Internal Debates, Islamnews.
Ross Mayfield’s Weblog: The Network’s Interpretation of Islam
The Network’s Interpretation of Islam
On Ross Mayfield’s Weblog an abstract of a discussion about the consequences for islam in the web-era.
The original discussion is here: OPEN AFFORDANCES: a multi-disciplinary panel on the possibilities and impossibilities of the internet
Posted on January 14th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Islam in the Netherlands, Multiculti Issues, Young Muslims.
Persbericht van de Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam over een islamopleiding.
VU wil helpen bij inburgering Islam
Bij de opening van de Vrije Universiteit in 1880 sprak de oprichter van de VU, Abraham Kuyper, uit, dat de VU een universiteit wilde zijn voor de christen, de jood en de mohammedaan. Die woorden blijken nu in het 125e lustrumjaar van de VU verrassend actueel. In de huidige situatie wil de VU graag nadrukkelijk een bijdrage leveren aan de inburgering van de islam in Nederland. Vanaf 1 juli kan de VU een �kop� op de standaardinburgering verzorgen voor mensen die als imam in Nederland willen gaan werken (nieuwkomers) of al in Nederland werkzaam zijn (oudkomers). Daarnaast wil de universiteit de islam-variant van de huidige opleiding Religie en Levensbeschouwing vanaf september uitbreiden. Per 1 september a.s. heeft de VU een Centrum voor Islamitische Theologie, dat kortlopende cursussen gaat aanbieden en de islamvariant van de opleiding tot geestelijk verzorger/voorganger verder gaat ontwikkelen. In die studie worden (moslim)studenten zo opgeleid dat ze aan de slag kunnen in vele beroepen waarin theologische vorming wordt gevraagd, zoals in het pastoraat binnen de krijgsmacht, de gezondheidszorg, justiti�le instellingen, en de moskee.
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Posted on January 13th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Misc. News.
NPR : Role of Islam vs. National Identity in Tsunami Aid
An interesting topic this islam vs. national identity. Islam seems not be supernational in all circumstances.
Day to Day, January 12, 2005 · Does national identity trump faith in the Muslim world’s tsunami aid efforts? NPR’s Eric Weiner reports that some observers in the Muslim world have charged that oil-rich states of the Persian Gulf have not done enough to help fellow Muslims affected by the tsunami. That’s led to a debate about what role national identity plays in determining relationships between Muslim countries.
Posted on January 8th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Religious and Political Radicalization, Young Muslims.
de Volkskrant – Interview met Mohammed Ajouaou: Moslimjeugd voert religieus schrikbewind
Moslimjeugd voert religieus schrikbewind
Van onze verslaggeefster Janny Groen
DEN HAAG/TILBURG – Marokkaanse ouders slagen er niet in een antwoord te vinden op de radicalisering van moslimjongeren. Zij kijken de andere kant op, terwijl een confrontatie beter zou zijn.
Hij vergelijkt de radicalisering van de moslimjeugd met een ‘kleine tsunami die over de Marokkaanse gemeenschap spoelt’. Hij onderschrijft daarmee de analyse van de AIVD die stelt dat de Marokkanen in Nederland nauwelijks verweer hebben op het radicaliseringproces. ‘De machteloosheid is zo groot. Ouders weten niet wat ze moeten doen.’
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Posted on January 8th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Religious and Political Radicalization.
Beware of Neo-Muslims and Rand Robots By Tahir Ali
Beware of Neo-Muslims and Rand Robots
By Tahir Ali
Al-Jazeerah, January 4, 2005
For the last three years, the New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman has been telling Muslims all over the world: You either have to have a war within or a war with us. A call for Muslim �civil war� has become the battle cry of the neo-cons. Using these �civil wars�, Muslims killing Muslims in large numbers, the neo-cons expect to accomplish three goals: 1) recreation of Muslim societies in Western image, with or without democratic institutions, 2) long-term control over oil and policies toward Israel, and 3) reconstruction of Islam on Biblical mo! del, reformation included.
A while back, the Rand Corporation, a semi-autonomous think tank, had issued a report titled Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, and Strategies authored by Cheryl Benard. The American Muslims must take note of because it is already being implemented in �letter and spirit� by various agencies and even �private� groups.
Posted on January 8th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates, Misc. News.
Trouw, nieuws & achtergronden – Alleen de minaret vertoont scheuren
Alleen de minaret vertoont scheuren
Veel moskee�n in het Indonesische Atjeh hebben de watermassa’s wonderwel doorstaan. Veel Atjee�rs zien daarin een bewijs van Allahs grootheid. Anderen herkennen de hand van de goede metselaar.
Posted on January 7th, 2005 by martijn.
Categories: Internal Debates, Islam in the Netherlands.
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Posted on January 6th, 2005 by .
Categories: Internal Debates.
Daily Times – Site Edition
SECOND OPINION: The myth of Ijtihad� �Khaled Ahmed�s TV Review
If the principle of doing ijtihad on the basis of the Quran was once allowed, then Allama Iqbal�s �ijtihad� on the Quranic injunction of �qat�-e-yadd� (cutting of hands) in his Sixth Lecture should be accepted. Not accepting his effort has led us to a situation where we have sentenced people to it but have not been able to cut the hands of a single thief. And those Islamic states who have, have not benefited from the law either
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Posted on December 28th, 2004 by martijn.
Categories: Internal Debates, Islam in the Netherlands, Murder on theo Van Gogh and related issues, My Research, Religious and Political Radicalization, Young Muslims.
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Posted on December 17th, 2004 by .
Categories: Internal Debates.
Muslim WakeUp! Blog What Would They Say About Sex & the Umma?
What Would They Say About Sex & the Umma?
A Russian Muslim publishing company just came out with a collection of articles and fatwas called “Love and Sex in Islam” that, acccording to the book’s editor, Abdullah Muhametov, “offers information on sex and love in accordance with the principles of Islam.” But it is already banned, because it goes against the principles of adab. Now Muslim WakeUp (yes those people people from Enough with the prudes, sex & the Umma) wonders what mufti’s might think of them…